Just in case anyone was thinking of checking it out

(okay - bored this morning)

Something tells me it'll never be up and running...

Well I wouldn't recommend holding your breath while you wait...


Mick

Well, I wasn't planning on holding my breath, but thanks for giving me that handy advice.

Have they actually got anyone working on the site?

Yes they havesomeone working on it. my guess is it will be ready xmas time

xmas what year god only knows :thumbwink:

Ho Ho Ho.

maybe they should hire Jules instead...
she'd get the job done.

she'd do a good job fast aswell
B)

Being GKRs official site. I suppose the powers to be want it just right.There are some terrific unoficial sites on the internet,and thats going to be very hard to compete against.Not that its a competition if u know what i mean. :thumbwink:

But it is a competition. I heard that they were just going to buy the unofficial website, or something.

Brodius
Ive heard,cant remb where from, that Mat B, offered his site to Shihan,for the officialwebsite free of charge.Shihan turned the offer down.
If thats true,no wonder its taking so long to get up and running,cos Mats site is fantastic.I do know someone is working on the official site,and this person is very capable of producing an excellent site.With the standards set by these guys with the websites it can only be good news for us humble Karate ka.
:thumbwink:

Add to that the rumours that they're going to lean on everyone with an unofficial site to shut them down...

Resist to the end I say


Mick

hmmmm - I must say this comment intrigues me somewhat.....
Can you elaborate on this rumour?

Matt

Even if GKR decides to get heavy with sites you should be OK

They would find it hard to bully you into closing your site as the content is not defamatory.
I think the only leg they could stand on to close down this site would be its possible violation of the
AuDA DOMAIN NAME ELIGIBILITY AND ALLOCATION POLICY RULES FOR OPEN SECOND LEVEL DOMAINS (2LDs)
In trying to link your relationship to the name gkr.net.au.
Your defence would be Schedule E. Section 2c (iv) in the above mentioned document which states you can have gkr.net.au because it is
(iv) an activity that the registrant facilitates, teaches or trains
However as a sensei we all signed a 'contract' with GKR. Depending on how that contract is worded with regards to being a represenative of GKR would I think unltimatly decide if you were "allowed" to register the name gkr.net.au.

If it does come down to this give me a call. I have quite a few contacts in the AuDA, partly as a result of being involved in some of the drafting of these policies.


[edit]
I just did a search for the trademark of GKR
one does not exist
If you wanted to be cunning matt you could try an get the trademark for GKR. Dont ask me how and on what grounds.
THen if Shihan decided to get heavy with you over the web site you could get heavy with him over the use of your trademark

Thanks for the info Dave - I really appreciate it.
I would however like to think that this is yet another malicious rumour spreading around (or Micks disturbing sense of humour ), and that gkr realises that the sites actually advertise the club and assist members and keep them attending, which is of course what they want.

Some RMs are known to stand over members who set up their own websites and heavy them into deleting it. I can provide at least one name if required. I can provide other names that I have actually heard from their own mouth say that you "aren't allowed" to set up a website.

Besides, you could always scrub any reference to go kan ryu, then there's not a lot to prove that the gkr.net.au domain refers to the karate club, apart from the chat. Call it something else with the same initials, like Great Karate Room (I dunno, I only thought about that for 2-3 seconds. I'm sure there are better names) and you ought to be covered IMO. "GKR Karate? nonono it stands for..."


Mick

My only concern is the implementation of said rumours into fact, and it has happened in the past.

for now it souldn't be a problem
if it is we'll deal with it then.
no use getting worried for nothing

besides, our RM knows about the WGV website AND this forum and hasn't spoken to us of any problems he has with it.

if anything i've actually heard him refer other instructors to it...

Well - the best way for them to shut down other sites is to set up a real killer official site. People are screaming out for it and at the mo for gkr info its pretty much matb or nothing. A well run and constantly kept up to date official site is LONG overdue.

... just my two cents - there has been only support from our RM for the Seven Hills website, and I haven't heard of anything else for the Lalor Park site either (plug, plug, plug - sorry). I have heard rumours about the official site and Matt's unofficial site that are in line with the theories circulating here, though.
OK, so that is only one cents worth, but never mind.

hey bearette...
for a proper plug place your website on the forum...
maybe in your signature
or let myself or matt know what the site is called and the address and we'll place it on our front page

B) Wish I had thought of that! Now I have done both!



Bearette

Hi all,

It's TheArchitect here from the UK based GKR Forums. I'd just like to take a minute to clear a few things up. Nothing I have to say is coming directly from Kanchos lips, but from a very good source who'd I'd prefer not to name simply because I've not cleared it with him yet. This guy is working on the official site as we speak.

I have been given no indication whatsoever at any time that GKR will be shutting down unofficial sites. There was some initial confusion over domains that had been registered - some thinking that the official site would need them - but this has proved to be inaccurate.

GKR is currently working (for real this time ) the official site. I've no news at the moment when it will be complete, but my guess is Christmas at the very earliest! Personally I'm not expecting it until the new year.

The official site, as I understand, will be focusing on merchandise. I'm not sure what level of actual GKR will be held on the site with regards to the likes of kata and other official techniques.

There is no reason for GKR Officials to want to shut down unofficial sites. What would they have to gain? Anything that a sensei has told you is almost certainly wrong. Heck, even my own site has a few RM's chatting away on it.

I'll be getting more information soon. If you want to keep up to date with whats going on, please feel free to check out the thread on the forum: http://www.gkrkarate.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=297

Hope this clears things up a little and puts peoples minds at rest.

Happy training all!


TheArchitect

hey TheArchitect

and thanks for your information that you have on this subject

i just hope that the time it's taking for the site to be developed means it's worth the wait...

Certainly it is all just speculation until something official comes out. Though in the case of squashing unofficial sites, IMO it's better to have sites that you know about operating - especially when they're moderated and users have some level of decorum and serious discussion - than to perhaps (in the extreme) simply drive users to create less conspicuous forums for discussion and chat.

My $0.02 anyway


Mick

Hi mate - welcome to the "colonials"
I'd be VERY disappointed if the official site focuses on merchandising. Sure - nothing wrong with using it to flog some stuff, hell an order online shop is a great idea, but to use it solely as another revenue tool is a bit irresponsible IMHO.
Most people would agree that to have a site dispensing information direct from those in charge is almost essential in any organisation as big as ours to keep people informed and rumours in check. Perhaps regional people could be conscripted to set up a results page for tournaments worldwide? A regular online newsletter rather than the photocopied one we get before class and never quite get around to reading? The possibilities and opportunities are endless and to turn it into a shop would be a waste.

As to the unofficial sites matter I'm sticking with my 'no-comment" line.

Hope you pop back soon (nice pimp too, btw )

surprise surprise gkr will set up a web site mostly to sell stuff, i say matt get the dominian name and keep your excellent site open :thumbwink: where people like me, can voice my opinions, good or bad and not be censored or worse for them. trust and respect must be earn't my mum always told me, in this case i'd say get protection NOW. i'd be walking a few doors down and using the expert advise on the matter there, before you wear it for your trust and kindness. as you have seen it has happened and comming from mick even though i don't know him personally i like the way he goes about his stuff so i'd trust him before alot of other people in gkr . i say if he is willing to pass on names in private like he has stated he is good on the info he posted.

Wow, even after I tried to torch the tree!

I have a perhaps slightly different take on the respect thing - that is, respect should be given but disrespect can be earned.


Mick

lol mick cann't have us agreeing on to many things . but your way does seem to have merits and i'll leave it at that.

Hi again

Well I have a little more news. This is from my site...



If you have any ideas or things you'd like to see on the official site, let me know... http://www.gkrkarate.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=297

I think it would be foolish for GKR to get heavy handed with students websites.I for one have no wish to belong to a totalatarian regime where everybody has to follow the party line.Brainwashing belongs to organisations like the Moonies and has no place in karate.Freedom should always be defended.

does anyone know what happening with the website?????

It is being worked upon as we speak.

There are no time scales at the moment, nor are they likely to be since if there were they'd just be broken

Remember to visit the thread on my forum (previous link) to list anything you'd like to see on the site.



[EDIT - can you believe how much of a pimp this guy is???? ]

So are you actually designing the official site?

Not designing. Well probably not. Will just be doing the coding/back-end stuff.


[EDIT - and a bullshit artist as well ]

Where do I what I do like to see on the site?

Cancel Last I think I know now....

how about a weekly or forthightly selfdefense page seeing it is hardly ever taught in class, maybe a sparring tip page where it teachs you attacking and counter attacting moves. and lastly is this going to be a free web site, or is it a subscribe on a monthly basis.i'd love to think it would be free, but until i see it on my computer in full colour i will be a sceptic on the free thing from gkr.

So you are part of the gkr management then?

Not me. Just an enthusiastic ASP developer and GKR student that happened to be in the right place at the right time.

It's still not confirmed how much input I'll have, but I will be doing at least a little.

can anyone tell me if this is going to be a free web site or a subscripion one please

It will be free. There will be a members area coming shortly but I'm not-100% what it will contain so I wouldn't like to speculate.

ok thanks for getting back to me on the pay thing dude :thumbwink:. so the way i see it you can buy gear and get a lot of useless info or teasers on the free part of the site, but if you want any useful info get your credit card out surprise surprise nope not really this is gkr.

i really hope i am reading this wrong and when the site get up and running if i am i'll be the first to post in saying so, i think i'm pretty safe though

I think you're reading it wrong. What I said was that there'd be a members section, but I couldn't recall what was in it. The members section may be free but only available to certain people (eg instructors).

I'll try and find out and confirm. Till then don't jump to any conclusions....

done i'll keep an open mind till you get back to me :thumbgrin:.

^Bump^

... I think 'The Firm' is attempting hypnotism as a selling strategy now..check out the official site

ok call me thick but what's the address for it?

Oh I was so tempted with a line like that....


Anon

www.gkr.com.au

fang you really do leave yourself open for things y'know

Poor poor Fang. I think his mind is deteriating faster than his body.

awwww fang, everyone is so mean..to be fair I realised I'd not posted the linkie..but then I'd rather not stare at that screen any longer than necessary